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Theory: In 'Man of Steel,' Krypton Lives

I wrote about this just a few days ago but the new trailer reinforces the notion: In the new Superman movie, Krypton, Kal-El's homeworld, lives. It doesn't blow up. 

Evidence:

  1. “I’ll be honest with you, there’s no Kryptonite in the movie,” says director Zack Snyder. (Source: Entertainment Weekly cover story.)
  2. “This film reveals that even on Krypton, young Kal-El was a special child, whose birth was cause for alarm on his home planet.” Which gives Jor-El a reason, besides the destruction of Krypton, to send his baby son away in a rocket ship. (Source: Entertainment Weekly cover story.) 
  3. In “Superman II” Gen. Zod tried to take over the Earth, since there was no longer a Krypton to take over. In the new teaser, he doesn't try to take over Earth. He simply asks for Kal-El back. But back where? (Source: “Man of Steel” teaser.)
  4. Zod also refers to Kal-El as “one of my citizens.” But citizen of what? (Source: “Man of Steel” teaser.)

And now we have the new trailer, trailer #3, in which:

  1. We see a battle on Krypton, not Krypton exploding.
  2. We see Zod berating a woman thus: “You believe your son is safe?!” It's obviously Lara he's talking to. But how? Isn't this after Kal-El is shot into space? And isn't that generally when Krypton blows up? Yet there they are, talking.
  3. We see Zod shouting, “I will find him!” amdist a Kryptonian backdrop.

Here's the new trailer:

This trailer, by the way, is the one that most recalls “Superman: The Movie”: from the dialgoue between Jor-El and Lara about their child's place on Earth, to Lois naming Kal-El, from the S-like Kryptonian symbol on his chest, “Superman.”

As for Krypton living, what do you think? Am I missing something? I just can't get around Zod extracting Kal-El from Earth rather than battling him for it. The only reason you don't battle someone for a planet is if you already have one.

June 14.

ADDENDUM: More speculation in the comments field.

Jor-El watches an attack on Krypton in "Man of Steel"

That's Jor-El. But that doesn't seem like a planet blowing up. It seems like soneone's attacking.

Zod yelling "I will find him!"

And this is Zod yelling, “I will find him!” Seems like the same place. Seems like Krypton.


Posted at 11:13 PM on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 in category Trailers  
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COMMENTS

CWaldenNelson wrote:

I'm sorry, I lost consciousness after they showed Superman with a hairy chest.

What were we talking about?

“Fetch my smelling salts, I feel my faintness come upon me!”

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Tim wrote:

I also thought it was curious to see a battle raging on Krypton, but my mind didn't go to “Krypton lives.” Not a bad theory, though, but it does make Superman remaining on Earth a question if/when he finds out there's still a planet back home. I think it'd be a bit much to leave that question at the end, but it's an interesting thought.

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Tim wrote:

Also, the Zod dialogue could well be from before Kal-El is sent into space. Zod could be in charge of whatever child-rearing practice is prevalent on Krypton that the Els are rebelling against. The “You think he's safe” line might well prompt sending him to Earth...

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Erik wrote:

Chris: Ha!

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Erik wrote:

Tim: the bigger issue is Zod's dialogue in the teaser:

“My name is General Zod. For some time your world has sheltered one of my citizens. I request that you return this individual to my custody. To Kal-El, I say this: Surrender within 24 hours or watch this world suffer the consequences.”

One of my citizens ... of what?
Return this individual ... to go where?

It doesn't make any sense unless Zod is rulling somewhere else. And where else would he be ruling?

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Tim wrote:

I think I spotted Richard Schiff in there — Toby works for the government in this world, too!

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Tim wrote:

I haven't seen that. Don't know anything of its context.

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Erik wrote:

Linked to above. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU6L_4q2mcM

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 16, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Erik wrote:

More info here:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=77392&utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_53459

Others have mentioned they're going with the storyline where Brainiac destroys Krypton ... which is why you get the attack on Krypton.

(I have trouble dealing with a villain named 'Brainiac.')

ComicBookMovie.com suggests that Kal-El is unique because he's natural, not engineered like other Kryptonians, and has free will.

We also get a shot of the Kryptonian Faora on board a spaceship. So that could be the answer to where Zod wants Kal-El returned to. The spaceship. Battlestar Kryptonica.

Why doesn't he want a planet if he doesn't have one? Why doesn't he want a planet in which he'd be a superpowered being? Maybe he does. Maybe he wants to extract Kal-El before attacking Earth. Or maybe Zod is on a mission to get Brainiac and needs Kal-El's help.

Who knows? But all of this is depressing me as I write it. I have almost zero interest in other Kryptonian survivors.

Comment posted on Wed. Apr 17, 2013 at 08:01 AM

Myriam wrote:

Maybe Zod and company exist in the Phantom Zone, where they were banished? And he wants Kal-El to take his proper place there, too?

I can't wrap my brain around a concept that Krypton still exists. It's possible there was a battle taking place as the planet was dying from within.

Because if Krypton still existed, why would Superman stay on Earth all the time? He'd want to go “home” to his people, right?

Comment posted on Wed. Apr 17, 2013 at 09:11 AM

Erik wrote:

You're thinking of the Bryan Singer version. You've got to let that go. You've got to put the boot in reboot.

Comment posted on Wed. Apr 17, 2013 at 09:14 AM

Erik wrote:

Myriam, your family is from the Philippines? Why don't you go back? Denmark still exists. Why don't I go back?

Sure, apples/oranges. But if Krypton is a genetically engineered society, as per a comment above, and Kal-El has free will, then he's closer to us than them.

Plus he only knows us. He doesn't know them.

Comment posted on Wed. Apr 17, 2013 at 09:20 AM

Myriam wrote:

But he'll want to know them because he's never been, never met others like him. Maybe he's got cousins? I already lived in the Philippines for 10 years; I don't want to live there ever again!

All I know is that June 14 can't come fast enough.

Comment posted on Wed. Apr 17, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Erik wrote:

Krypton lives is interesting to me.

Krypton is destroyed by Brainiac (horrible name), and Zod and co. survive in a Battlestar Kryptonica ship, doesn't interest me at all.

In theory. I suppose it's all about execution.

The key question is why Zod wants Kal-El and not Earth. Also, I suppose, why he doesn't seem to age much between arguing on Krypton and fighting on Earth. He just grows a goatee. Or a kind of extended soul patch. Meanwhile, Kal-El has grown from baby to Hercules.

Comment posted on Wed. Apr 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Myriam wrote:

Okay I have now watched this trailer seven times.

Here's my guess at what's happening.

There is a battle on Krypton, that's for sure. Zod telling Jor-El, “You think your son is safe?!” Then later yelling, “I will find him!” This is happening on Krypton, probably because Jor-El has already launched him towards Earth in order to save him from Krypton's destruction, whether it's self-induced or supernova-induced or whatever.

Zod shows up on Earth, now with soul patch, looking for Kal-El. He just wants the dude, he doesn't seem to want to rule Earth (like Stamp's Zod). I think he wants him to either punish him for whatever Jor-El did to Zod, or to take him back to...? Phantom Zone? New Krypton colony? Or...gasp...what remains of Krypton?

I cannot wait to see Supe's new digs. Not all icy and white like before, but more organic and metallic, yet still cold.

And that scene of his fist to the ground, right before he takes flight...it may just kill me.

Comment posted on Wed. Apr 17, 2013 at 03:47 PM

Tony wrote:

Just read this at ew.com. “That's what pits him against General Zod (Boardwalk Empire's Michael Shannon), a Kryptonian tyrant who wants Clark to join him back on Krypton, which would mean abandoning his post as defender of the weaklings of Earth. ”

Here's that link...http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20483133_20694515,00.html#21304362

Comment posted on Tue. Apr 30, 2013 at 08:22 AM

Ged wrote:

To all those who love to speculate that Krypton did NOT explode: Check out the 12th spoilery picture taken from the Man of Steel Junior Novel. This would put all you doubters to rest:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=78920

Comment posted on Sun. May 05, 2013 at 07:24 AM

De-Von wrote:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/107287/3046126-8878796099-30432.jpg

His bio talks a bout krypton being destroyed..........so uh yeah idk how this other rumor started

Comment posted on Thu. May 16, 2013 at 10:02 AM

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