Wednesday February 22, 2012
How Do Best Pictures Rate on IMDb?
My recent post about the IMDb ratings of current best picture nominees, along with the usual slew of “worst best-pictures” articles, or revisionist or do-over Oscar picks, made me wonder how every best picture winner has fared with IMDb users—or at least those IMDb users who bother to rate films.
Which are the highest-rated best picture winners? Which are the lowest-rated? Which pictures get votes and which are ignored?
No big surprise: Recent best picture winners get rated more often, way more often, than older best picture winners. In the past 20 years, there are only three films that haven't been rated by more than 100,000 users: “Chicago,” “Shakespeare in Love” and “The English Patient.” Meanwhile, of the first 45 best picture winners—i.e., from 1927 to 1971—only two films, “Casablanca” and “Gone with the Wind,” have generated more than 100,000 votes. Most people can't be bothered with what's old. Those who can, like me, can't be bothered to rate them on IMDb.
The films with the lowest vote totals also tend to have the lowest ratings. That was a bit of a surprise to me. I thought that the few fans of, say, “Cavalcade” (1933), would skew its results up, but it's simply logic. Lesser movies just don't get watched, and thus don't get rated, particularly if they're older. Among best picture winners, “Calvacade,” from 1933, has the fewest votes: 1,426.
A note to IMDb: Isn't it time to increase the decimal? Ten of the 84 films are tied with an 8.4 rating. Nine are tied with an 8.0 rating. That's too many ties. Give us that hundredth already.
Now on with the countdown.
Here are the highest-ranked best picture winners on IMDb:
MOVIE |
IMDb RATING |
VOTES |
The Godfather (1972) | 9.2 | 535,083 |
The Godfather, Part II (1974) | 9.0 | 336,575 |
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) | 8.9 | 501,289 |
Schindler's List (1993) | 8.9 | 375,193 |
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) | 8.8 | 300,314 |
Forrest Gump (1994) | 8.7 | 446,991 |
The Silence of the Lambs (1991) | 8.7 | 344,094 |
Casablanca (1943) | 8.7 | 209,989 |
The Departed (2006) | 8.5 | 368,308 |
American Beauty (1999) | 8.5 | 389,392 |
Lawrence of Arabia (1962) | 8.5 | 98,407 |
Again, it skews recent. Of the top 11, more than half were released in the last 20 years. Only two—“Lawrence” and “Casablanca”—were released prior to 1970.
Here are the bottom 10:
MOVIE |
IMDb RATING |
VOTES |
Cimarron (1931) | 6.1 | 1,744 |
Cavalcade (1933) | 6.3 | 1,426 |
The Broadway Melody (1929) | 6.4 | 2,466 |
The Greatest Show On Earth (1952) | 6.7 | 5,186 |
Around the World In 80 Days (1956) | 6.8 | 9,129 |
Tom Jones (1963) | 6.9 | 4,857 |
Gigi (1958) | 6.9 | 7,472 |
The Great Ziegfeld (1936) | 6.9 | 2,583 |
Out of Africa (1985) | 7.0 | 25,363 |
Chicago (2002) | 7.2 | 99,936 |
Chariots of Fire (1981) | 7.2 | 20,114 |
An American In Paris (1951) | 7.2 | 11,808 |
It skews old. We get the forgotten BPs of the 1930s, the bloated spectacles of the 1950s, plus a few recent head-scratchers. But “An American in Paris” at 7.2? Really? IMDb's voters don't like musicals, do they? The great musicals of the early sixties, “My Fair Lady” (7.9), “The Sound of Music” (7.9) and “West Side Story” (7.7) all get less love than the abyssmal “Crash,” which is somehow still perched at a lofty 8.0.
Something is even more apparent when you look at each decade's highest- and lowest-ranked films:
Decade | Highest-Ranked | Rating | Lowest-ranked | Rating |
1930s | It Happened One Night | 8.3 | Cimarron | 6.1 |
1940s | Casablanca | 8.7 | Gentleman's Agreement | 7.4 |
1950s | The Bridge on the River Kwai | 8.4 | The Greatest Show on Earth | 6.7 |
1960s | Lawrence of Arabia | 8.5 | Tom Jones | 6.9 |
1970s | The Godfather | 9.2 | Kramer vs. Kramer | 7.7 |
1980s | Amadeus | 8.4 | Out of Africa | 7.0 |
1990s | Schindler's List | 8.9 | Shakespeare in Love | 7.3 |
2000s | Lord of the Rings: Return of the King | 8.9 | Chicago | 7.2 |
It's the dude angle, the fanboy angle. The highest-ranked films above are testosterone-heavy. From the 1950s on, in fact, it's tough to find a leading woman in the mix. Diane Keaton in “The Godfather” maybe? Mozart's wife in “Amadeus”? Cate Blanchett in “LOTR: ROTK”? On the lowest-ranked side, it's all female-centered stories (“Chicago”) or empathetic male stories (“Kramer vs. Kramer”), or both (“Shakespeare in Love”). It's hardly a scoop that IMDb's users are young and male but it is sad. The Academy is historically dismissive of female-centered stories. IMDb's voters turn out to be worse.
As I was compiling the above, I noticed that the highest-ranked of the highest-ranked movies was “The Godfather,” while the highest-ranked of the lowest-ranked movies was “Kramer vs. Kramer,” both from the 1970s. It led me to break down the ratings by decade:
Decade | Avg Rating |
1970s | 8.35 |
1990s | 8.16 |
2000s | 8.13 |
1940s | 7.94 |
1960s | 7.88 |
1980s | 7.72 |
1950s | 7.66 |
1930s | 7.48 |
The 1970s, with its great slew of American films, is rightly in first place. The 1950s is weighed down by a few of the Academy's tepid choices (“Greatest Show,” “Around the World”), as is the 1980s (“Ordinary People,” “Chariots of Fire,” “Driving Miss Daisy”). The '90s and 2000s are obviously too high but what are you gonna do? They'll come down.
For completeists, here's the entire list:
MOVIE | IMDb RATING | VOTES |
The King's Speech (2010) | 8.2 | 155,972 |
The Hurt Locker (2009) | 7.7 | 137,683 |
Slumdog Millionaire (2008) | 8.2 | 269,582 |
No Country For Old Men (2007) | 8.2 | 274,692 |
The Departed (2006) | 8.5 | 368,308 |
Crash (2005) | 8.0 | 217,777 |
Million Dollar Baby (2004) | 8.2 | 204,335 |
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) | 8.9 | 501,289 |
Chicago (2002) | 7.2 | 99,936 |
A Beautiful Mind (2001) | 8.0 | 202,651 |
Gladiator (2000) | 8.4 | 397,268 |
American Beauty (1999) | 8.5 | 389,392 |
Shakespeare In Love (1998) | 7.3 | 97,391 |
Titanic (1997) | 7.5 | 336,027 |
The English Patient (1996) | 7.3 | 72,322 |
Braveheart (1995) | 8.4 | 327,548 |
Forrest Gump (1994) | 8.7 | 446,991 |
Schindler's List (1993) | 8.9 | 375,193 |
Unforgiven (1992) | 8.3 | 135,496 |
The Silence of the Lambs (1991) | 8.7 | 344,094 |
Dances With Wolves (1990) | 8.0 | 94,144 |
Driving Miss Daisy (1989) | 7.4 | 30,411 |
Rain Man (1988) | 8.0 | 165,428 |
The Last Emperor (1987) | 7.8 | 33,160 |
Platoon (1986) | 8.2 | 145,818 |
Out of Africa (1985) | 7.0 | 25,363 |
Amadeus (1984) | 8.4 | 128,078 |
Terms of Endearment (1983) | 7.3 | 21,085 |
Gandhi (1982) | 8.1 | 71,833 |
Chariots of Fire (1981) | 7.2 | 20,114 |
Ordinary People (1980) | 7.8 | 20,192 |
Kramer Vs. Kramer (1979) | 7.7 | 40,353 |
The Deer Hunter (1978) | 8.2 | 117,540 |
Annie Hall (1977) | 8.2 | 87,916 |
Rocky (1976) | 8.1 | 143,362 |
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) | 8.8 | 300,314 |
The Godfather, Part II (1974) | 9.0 | 336,575 |
The Sting (1973) | 8.4 | 85,891 |
The Godfather (1972) | 9.2 | 535,083 |
The French Connection (1971) | 7.9 | 42,667 |
Patton (1970) | 8.0 | 49,384 |
Midnight Cowboy (1969) | 8.0 | 42,805 |
Oliver! (1968) | 7.5 | 12,026 |
In the Heat of the Night (1967) | 8.0 | 26,928 |
A Man For All Seasons (1966) | 8.0 | 14,614 |
The Sound of Music (1965) | 7.9 | 68,810 |
My Fair Lady (1964) | 7.9 | 35,262 |
Tom Jones (1963) | 6.9 | 4,857 |
Lawrence of Arabia (1962) | 8.5 | 98,407 |
West Side Story (1961) | 7.7 | 37,371 |
The Apartment (1960) | 8.4 | 49,785 |
Ben-Hur (1959) | 8.2 | 76,925 |
Gigi (1958) | 6.9 | 7,472 |
The Bridge On the River Kwai (1957) | 8.4 | 76,003 |
Around the World In 80 Days (1956) | 6.8 | 9,129 |
Marty (1955) | 7.7 | 8,028 |
On the Waterfront (1954) | 8.4 | 52,369 |
From Here To Eternity (1953) | 7.9 | 19,141 |
The Greatest Show On Earth (1952) | 6.7 | 5,186 |
An American In Paris (1951) | 7.2 | 11,808 |
All About Eve (1950) | 8.4 | 43,955 |
All the King's Men (1949) | 7.6 | 5,597 |
Hamlet (1948) | 7.9 | 6,557 |
Gentleman's Agreement (1947) | 7.4 | 5,688 |
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946) | 8.3 | 21,793 |
The Lost Weekend (1945) | 8.1 | 14,287 |
Going My Way (1944) | 7.4 | 4,143 |
Casablanca (1943) | 8.7 | 209,989 |
Mrs. Miniver (1942) | 7.7 | 6,058 |
How Green Was My Valley (1941) | 7.9 | 8,993 |
Rebecca (1940) | 8.4 | 45,011 |
Gone With the Wind (1939) | 8.2 | 106,428 |
You Can't Take It With You (1938) | 8.0 | 10,500 |
The Life of Emile Zola (1937) | 7.4 | 2,376 |
The Great Ziegfeld (1936) | 6.9 | 2,583 |
Mutiny On the Bounty (1935) | 7.9 | 9,276 |
It Happened One Night (1934) | 8.3 | 32,375 |
Cavalcade (1933) | 6.3 | 1,426 |
Grand Hotel (1932) | 7.6 | 7,300 |
Cimarron (1931) | 6.1 | 1,744 |
All Quiet On the Western Front (1930) | 8.1 | 28,205 |
The Broadway Melody (1929) | 6.4 | 2,466 |
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1928) | 8.4 | 15,384 |
Wings (1927) | 7.8 | 3,792 |
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