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Thursday August 01, 2013

Woody Allen's 'Wolverine'

My friend Claudine alerted me to this: “Wolverine” as envisioned by Woody Allen. It gets better after the first 50 seconds. My favorite is the stuff with Cyclops in the Tony Roberts role:

My opening monologue for this movie:

There's an old joke. Two mutants are at a Catskills mountain resort, and one of 'em says: “Boy, the food at this place is terrible.” And the other one says, “We are the future, Charles, not them. They no longer matter,” and incinerates the place.

Well, that's essentially how I feel about life. Full of loneliness and misery and suffering and, you know, incineration. Plus bad food.

The other important joke for me is one that's, uh, usually attributed to Groucho Marx, but I think it appears originally in Freud's “Wit and Its Relation to the Unconscious.” And it goes like this. I'm paraphrasing: “I would never join a club that would have someone like me for a member.”

That's the key joke of my adult life in terms of my relationships with women. Not to mention the X-Men.

You know, lately the strangest things have been going through my mind, because I just turned 170, and I guess I'm going through a “I’m never gonna die” crisis or something. I, uh ... and I'm not worried about aging. I'm not one of those characters, you know. I mean, I know I’m not going to be one of those balding virile types in the wheelchair, or the distinguished grey who can bend metal with his mind, or even one of those guys who wanders into a cafeteria with a tongue like a toad raving about socialism.


Jean Grey and I broke up. OK, I killed her, but only because she was becoming so powerful she was destroying the fabric of the universe. But I keep sifting the pieces of the relationship through my mind and examining my life and trying to figure out where did the screw-up come. I mean, a year ago we were ... in love.

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Posted at 02:20 PM on Aug 01, 2013 in category Superheroes
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Tuesday July 23, 2013

Why It Took Forever to Make Good Superhero Movies

Here's why “Superman: The Movie” and “Batman” were the only decent superhero movies until the year 2000. The scene takes place in 1986:

But once again, [Stan Lee] would learn, Marvel's fate lay in the hands of people who knew nothing about comic books. Out in Los Angeles, as soon as the sale was made, [New World Pictures' Robert] Rehme had summoned his vice president of marketing and proudly told him, “We just bought Superman!”

The vice president was perplexed. Warner Bros. was selling DC Comics?

“No, no, no—we bought Marvel!” said Rehme.

“No, Bob,” the vice president corrected him. “We bought Spider-Man.”

Rehme raced out of his office. “Holy shit,” he said. “We gotta stop this. Cannon has the Spider-Man movie!”

-- from Sean Howe's book, “Marvel Comics: The Untold Story,” pg. 295.

I suppose we should be grateful that Cannon Films, which produced “Superman IV: The Quest for Peace” and the 1992 “Captain America” movie, as well as “Death Wish II,” “III” and “IV” and “Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo,” never did make that Spider-Man movie. Although, per below, they were obviously doing more than thinking about it.

On the other hand, just imagine what a disaster it could have been. Such a gloriously awful disaster.

The Spider-Man movie that was never made, produced by Cannon Film

Disaster averted. Photo courtesy of Original Vid Junkie blogspot.

Don't forget to rank your favorite (and least-favorite) superhero movies.

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Posted at 06:19 AM on Jul 23, 2013 in category Superheroes
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Saturday July 20, 2013

Zack Snyder Announces 'Man of Steel 2' Will Include Batman

At the San Diego Comic-Con today, Zack Snyder, director of “Man of Steel,” “Sucker Punch,” “Watchmen,” and “300,” announced that the sequel to “Man of Steel,” which I thought might be up in the air (no pun intended), given that, after its opening weekend, it hasn't exactly set the world on fire, will include the Batman. (Actor playing Batman to be determined.)

Initial thought: Cool! Lead-up to a Justice League of America movie, right?

Second thought: Smart! It'll get more people to see a Superman movie.

Third thought: Wait, how are they going to do this? Won't it be like ... this?

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Posted at 03:32 PM on Jul 20, 2013 in category Superheroes
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Wednesday July 10, 2013

And Then Came ... Electro!

I'm a bit superheroed out these days (it feels like “The Amazing Spider-Man,” starring Andrew Garfield, was released last week rather than last year) but admit that this photo from the sequel to the reboot, with Spidey getting a less gossamer-like suit, and Jamie Foxx elecrtified as the villain Electro, looks pretty good.

Entertainment Weekly: Spider-Man and Electro, Andrew Garfield and Jamie Foxx

Although what's with the dog collar? Is Electro a fetishist?

Scheduled release date: May 2, 2014. I believe it's a Friday.

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Posted at 11:04 AM on Jul 10, 2013 in category Superheroes
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Friday June 28, 2013

Ranking Every Freakin' Superhero Movie Ever Made By IMDb Score

The best superhero movies of all time

I did it with the Academy Awards' best pictures. I did it with baseball movies. Isn't it about time I did it with superhero movies? Isn't that what you've been asking yourself lo these many months? Nay ... years! Well, face front, semi-true believers, because it's happening right now!

A few minor provisos about what's included. First, and most obviously, what's a superhero movie? Or better: What's a superhero? Sure, Batman, Spider-Man, Superman, rah. But do we count Meteor Man and Blank Man? I did. How about Steel or Barb Wire? Yes to the first, no to the second. I don't have Sheena, either, which seems like blatant sexism at this point, until you realize I didn't include Tarzan the Ape Man. And is it OK to parse Zorro andRobin Hood? I did. For me, Zorro is the ur-superhero: a masked avenger who is pretending in his secret identity be a weak man to the disgust of the Girl Who Matters. Robin Hood is simply a Middle Ages avenger stumping for the king. And no, no Scarlet Pimpernel, either. Sorry, Leslie Howard.

Because newer films tend to start with higher scores and drop—as longtime reader and IMDb-watcher Andrew Reed has said—I've ranked the ties in chronological order. Age before beauty, as it were. It's much more impressive, for example, that Tim Burton's “Batman” has a 7.6 rating than “X-Men Origins: Wolverine” does.

That said, when is IMDb going to add an extra decimal point already?

But enough of my yammering, Lundy Legions: It's clobberin' time!

Row Movie Year IMDb rating
1 The Dark Knight 2008 9.0
2 The Dark Knight Rises 2012 8.6
3 Batman Begins 2005 8.3
4 Marvel's The Avengers 2012 8.3
5 The Incredibles 2004 8.0
6 Iron Man 2008 7.9
7 Man of Steel 2013 7.9
8 Kick-Ass 2010 7.8
9 X-Men: First Class 2011 7.8
10 Superman II: The Donner Cut 2006 7.7

Well well well, if it isn't the Caped Crusader and his little Boy Wonder. OK, just barely the Boy Wonder. At the very end. Spoiler alert.

That's right. IMDb's top three superhero movies are the three Chris Nolan Batman movies. I don't think any of them make my top 10. Too much wrong with them. Butthey're dark and gritty and kids confuse that with meaningful. There's a lot of needless destruction in them, and some people just want to watch the world burn. 

As for “The Avengers,” “Incredibles” and “Iron Man”? Yes yes yes, as Molly Bloom said. (Look it up.) But no no no (as Ringo Starr said) to “Kick Ass.” It wants its irony and wish-fulfillment, too. And the best “X-Men,” according to these kids, is the prequel rather than “X2”? Oh my stars and garters.

“Man of Steel” will plummet to Earth, surely, but will the Donner cut of “Superman II”? Right now it's ranked higher than even “Superman: The Movie,” which started all of this, and it's a rare movie that most people won't watch and thus vote on. Although I guess IMDbers do vote without havingseen. Just as, on election day, people vote without having thought.

Let's keep on. To the batpole, Robin.

Row Movie Year IMDb rating
11 The Mark of Zorro 1940 7.6
12 Batman 1989 7.6
13 X2: X-Men United 2003 7.6
14 Watchmen 2009 7.6
15 Iron Man 3 2013 7.6
16 X-Men 2000 7.4
17 Spider-Man 2 2004 7.4
18 Superman: The Movie 1978 7.3
19 Spider-Man 2002 7.3
20 Megamind 2010 7.3

Five movies with a 7.6 rating? Right away, we have an argument for that extra decimal point. And what a mixed bag these movies are! The Tyronne Power reboot of the “Zorro” franchise, which is good; Tim Burton's “Batman,” which is *meh*; the second Bryan Singer-directed “X-Men” movie, which is GREAT; Zack Snyder's “Watchmen,” which ruined one of the best songs ever written, Leonard Cohen's “Hallelujah,” like, forever; and “Iron Man 3,” which made more than a billion dollars worldwide but is still plummeting here.

Not much “Spider-Man” love, is there? The best Spidey is 17th? Below “Watchmen”? Whallopin' websnappers. Three of these films—“X2,” “Spider-Man 2” and “Superman: The Movie”—would be (and will be, semi-true believers) in my top 10. Maybe my top 5. Stay tuned.

Row Movie Year IMDb rating
21 The Mark of Zorro 1920 7.2
22 Adventures of Captain Marvel 1941 7.2
23 Unbreakable 2000 7.2
24 Don Q: Son of Zorro 1925 7.1
25 Hellboy II: The Golden Army 2008 7.1
26 Iron Man 2 2010 7.1
27 The Amazing Spider-Man 2012 7.1
28 Zorro's Fighting Legion 1939 7.0
29 Superman  1948 7.0
30 Atom Man vs. Superman 1950 7.0

Now this is an interesting group: two silent films, four movie serials from the '30s, '40s and '50s, two sequels, a reboot and a turn-of-the-century original, “Unbreakable,” which also might be in my top 10.

The “Captain Marvel” serial, by the way, was probably the first true superhero movie, or serial, ever made, if you think of a superhero having powers and a cape and a secret identity. It doesn't look bad, considering. (That mannequin can fly!) Back then, the Big Red Cheese actually sold better than the Big Blue Boy Scout. Then litigation got in the way.

Interesting that both Kirk Alyn Superman serials are tied with each other, but it is tough to choose between them. Both have their pleasures, their absurdities, their long, boring faults. But both are way better than “Superman and the Mole Men.” (See #63. — Erudite Erik.)

Row Movie Year IMDb Rating
31 Batman Returns 1992 7.0
32 Blade 1998 7.0
33 Thor 2011 7.0
34 Chronicle 2012 7.0
35 The Phantom 1943 6.9
36 The Incredible Hulk 2008 6.9
37 The Shadow 1940 6.8
38 Hellboy 2004 6.8
39 X-Men: The Last Stand 2006 6.8
40 Captain America: The First Avenger 2011 6.8

Look at the above 10 again. What reads wrong to you? A 7.0 rating for “Batman Returns,” perchance? The movie where Tim Burton flew his freak flag for the villain, the Penguin, rather than Batman? That's certainly part of it. But I also have trouble abiding a tie between “Captain America: The First Avenger,” which wasn't bad, and “X-Men: The Last Stand,” the movie where Brett Ratner gave us loutish dialogue, where Professor X tells Wolverine, “I don't have to explain myself—least of all to you,” and where, most important, Ratner kills off half the X-Men! Wotta revoltin' development.

We're only a third of the way there and it's already starting to feel a bit *blah*, though, isn't it? “Thor”? “Blade”? “Chronicle”? Too bad the second half of “The Incredible Hulk” (the Ed Norton version) wasn't as good as the first half. And not just because it lacked Débora Nascimento.

BTW, has anyone seen that “Shadow” serial?

Alright, let's keep going, kids. Who knows what evil lurks down there....

Row Movie Year IMDb rating
41 Super 2011 6.8
42 Superman II 1981 6.7
43 The Mask of Zorro 1998 6.7
44 X-Men Origins: Wolverine 2009 6.7
45 Batman 1943 6.6
46 Blade II 2002 6.6
47 Hancock 2008 6.5
48 Batman 1966 6.4
49 Darkman 1990 6.4
50 Zorro Rides Again 1937 6.3

I'm glad “Superman II” (Lester version) isn't as beloved as its catchphrase “Kneel before Zod!” “Mask of Zorro” (1998) is tied with “Wolverine” (2009), but I'd take the former over the latter any day. The Zorro reboot works; the Wolverine prequel was a major disappointment.

Oh, “Hancock,” you should've been better. Oh, Adam West “Batman,” you were better. But fanboys these days want their heroes glowering and growling. No poking fun at the entire genre—or the entire culture. Caped, costumed men must stand, grim-faced sentinels on tall gothic buildings, as rain pours down and fails to wash the scum from the streets. So many of these kids still kneel before Frank Miller.

Row Movie Year IMDb rating
51 Captain America 1944 6.3
52 Flash Gordon 1980 6.3
53 The Rocketeer 1991 6.3
54 The Punisher 2004 6.3
55 Spider-Man 3 2007 6.3
56 Batman and Robin  1949 6.2
57 Sky High 2005 6.2
58 Superman Returns 2006 6.2
59 Hero at Large 1980 6.0
60 Punisher: War Zone 2008 6.0

By the hoary hosts of hogwash! I had my problems with “Superman Returns,” too, but IMDb voters would have it below “The Punisher” (with John Travolta as villain), “Flash Gordon” (with Queen on the soundtrack), and one of the worst movies ever made, “Spider-Man 3,” in which black goo from outer space turns Peter Parker into some combo of Tony Manero and Adolf Hitler??? Great Caesar's Ghost!

Row Movie Year IMDb rating
61 Mystery Men 1999 5.9
62 The Green Hornet 2011 5.9
63 Superman and the Mole Men  1951 5.8
64 Blade: Trinity 2004 5.8
65 The Legend of Zorro 2005 5.8
66 Green Lantern 2011 5.8
67 The Shadow 1994 5.7
68 Hulk 2003 5.7
69 Fantastic Four 2005 5.7
70 The Specials 2000 5.6

“Mystery Men” is way better than this, kids. But, as with the Adam West “Batman,” you need a sense of humor to get it.

Green movies (Lantern, Hornet, Hulk) don't make much green, do they? Did any movie here? “Fantastic Four,” kinda, but it's an embarrassing addition considering how instrumental the FF is in the Silver Age of Comics. Wotta revoltin' development.

Speaking of...

Row Movie Year IMDb rating
71 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer 2007 5.6
72 Batman Forever 1995 5.4
73 Daredevil 2003 5.4
74 The Return of Captain Invincible 1983 5.3
75 My Super Ex-Girlfriend 2006 5.2
76 Ghost Rider 2007 5.2
77 Spawn 1997 5.1
78 Superman III 1983 4.9
79 The Phantom 1996 4.8
80 Elektra 2005 4.8

When you see movies like “Ghost Rider,” “Superman III,” “Daredevil” and “Elektra,” you know you've almost reached bottom. Just 14 rungs to go. Hang on ...

Row Movie Year IMDb rating
81 The Spirit 2008 4.8
82 The Meteor Man 1993 4.7
83 The Legend of the Lone Ranger 1981 4.5
84 Blankman 1994 4.4
85 Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance 2012 4.4
86 Superhero Movie 2008 4.3
87 Supergirl 1984 4.2
88 Zoom 2006 3.9
89 The Fantastic Four 1994 3.8
90 Superman IV: The Quest for Peace 1987 3.6
91 Batman & Robin 1997 3.6
92 Catwoman 2004 3.2
93 Captain America 1990 3.0
94 Steel 1997 2.7

Hear that sound? That's the sound of hitting bottom. Thank God. Thank Odin. And his beard.

As we began with “The Dark Knight,” we end with “Steel,” starring Shaq. (Haven't seen it.) As we began with “The Avengers, we end with Matt Salinger's ”Captain America“ from 1990. (Haven't seen it.)

But I have seen the final Golan and Globus Superman and the George Clooney Batman and both deserve to be down here. Along with ”Supergirl“ and ”Legend of the Lone Ranger“ and Frank Miller's ”The Spirit,“ which is stab-out-your-eyeballs bad. Yes, and Nic Cage, Powerless Man, who sold his soul to the devil a long time ago.

So any I've missed, semi-true believers? Feel free to rap with Cap in the comments field below.

Final thought: I suppose it's a positive that there aren't many superhero movies worse than ”Batman & Robin.“ But I suppose it's a negative that there aren't any superhero movies better than ”The Dark Knight."

Ah, but there are. There are.

'Nuff said?

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Posted at 07:33 AM on Jun 28, 2013 in category Superheroes
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